Episode 39: Persuasion Deep Dive

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In this Especially Long Episode, we bring you a discussion of Jane Austen’s best work (come at us), Persuasion, featuring Margaret and Sophie of Two Bossy Dames and Ally of the Girl Gang. The discussion includes some diving into the gay subtext, some trips down memory lane, and some heated pros and cons of different movie adaptations. Plus: readalikes and watchalikes!

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Links:
Persuasion‘s cast of characters
Every Jane Austen Novel If They Were Gay and Also Historically Inaccurate from Autostraddle
Personality Quiz: Which Jane Austen Heroine are You?
1995 Persuasion movie trailer
2007 Persuasion movie trailer
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Advanced Studies in England
Emotional Labor Thread condensed

Readalikes:
Captain Wentworth’s Persuasion by Regina Jeffers
Frederick Wentworth, Captain series by Susan Kaye
Jane Austen in Scarsdale: or Love, Death, and the SATs by Paula Marantz Cohen
Persuasion, Captain Wentworth, and Cracklin’ Cornbread by Mary Jane Hathaway
Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason by Helen Fielding
The Mr. and Mrs. Darcy series by Carrie Bebris
The Jane Austen Mysteries by Stephanie Barron
For Darkness Shows the Stars by Diana Peterfreund
Lord Peter Wimsey/Harriet Vane stories by Dorothy L. Sayers: Strong Poison, Have His Carcase, Gaudy Night, Busman’s Honeymoon
The Blue Castle by Lucy Maud Montgomery
The Ladies of Missalonghi by Colleen McCullough
Wonder Boys by Michael Chabon
Happy All the Time by Laurie Colwin

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Half Agony, Half Hope: a Playlist by @MrsFridayNext

Musical Obsessions:
Ally: “Faint of Heart” by Tegan and Sara
Margaret: “You and I” by Margaret Glaspy
She Used to be Mine” and “You Matter to Me” from Waitress
Sophie: fleetwood mac’s album tusk, “Sorry” by Beyoncé
Anna: “Alexander Hamilton” from Hamilton
Alene: “L.A. Hallucinations” by Carly Rae Jepsen

Obsessions:
Ally: 2 Dope Queens podcast
Margaret: Playing House TV show
Sophie: Laurinda by Alice Pung (look for it in the US under the title Lucy and Linh; buy Australian at fishpond.com)
Anna: Newt’s Emerald by Garth Nix
Alene: Lady Power: Hillary, WNBA, Elizabeth Warren, Rachel Maddow
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Episode 14 Show Notes: Classics and Diverse Books

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We are back from our LIVE show and answering a few more listener-submitted questions. Ally wanted us to talk about “classics” and Katie wanted to know what to give her white male children to diversify their reading experiences. Carolyn says a classic book is something she won’t want to read again, but a classic movie is something she will want to watch repeatedly. Anna’s moral of the story:

“If you think it’s a classic, it is. If you disagree with someone on this, keep your mouth shut.”

Please send us your best links to lists of diverse books for kids! We need help crowdsourcing on this one.

And please be sure to listen alllllll the way to the end. Past the talking, past the music. Trust us.

Links
Fifty Shades of Grey movie
Worst Bestsellers episode
Anna’s Fifty Shades readalike project

Classic Music
The Archies
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Led Zeppelin
ELO
Godspell
[Carolyn now realizes that it was NOT the original cast recording but the MOVIE soundtrack that she grew up and is her favorite. Victor Garber, y’all.]


The Sound of Music
My Fair Lady
Camelot
Annie
Paul Simon “Graceland” album
Peter, Paul, and Mary
Judy Garland
The Nutcracker
Mozart K467 Piano Concerto 21
Bach, “Jesu, Joy of Man’s Desiring

Classic Books
The Joy Luck Club by Amy Tan
Moby-Dick by Herman Melville
Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
Middlemarch by George Eliot
War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy
Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson
Dracula by Bram Stoker
The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett
Robin Hood by Howard Pyle and others
Persuasion by Jane Austen
Emily Brontë’s poetry (not Wuthering Heights)
Anne of Green Gables by L.M. Montgomery
The Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas
Nancy Drew
Agatha Christie
The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian by Sherman Alexie
The Madwoman in the Attic by Sandra M. Gilbert and Susan Gubar

Classic Movies
Chinatown
Casablanca
The Adventures of Robin Hood
The Philadelphia Story
The African Queen
Bringing up Baby
Charade
White Christmas
Singin’ in the Rain
Meet Me in St. Louis
The Maltese Falcon
Double Indemnity
Sunset Boulevard
The Godfather
Some Like it Hot

Diverse Reads for Children
The Kane Chronicles by Rick Riordan
Sugar Plum Ballerina series, Whoopi Goldberg
Pinkalicious by Victoria Kann
Storytime Underground
Mommy, Mama, and Me by Lesléa Newman
Princeless by Jeremy Whitley et al.
The Best Feminist Picture Books (via Book Riot)

Obsessions
Anna: The Little White Horse by Elizabeth Goudge
Carolyn: Invisibilia podcast